Lieutenant General Mark Hertling (Ret.)
Retired U.S. Army lieutenant general with extensive experience in training and command (former commander of U.S. Army Europe and of initial military training), appearing to analyze military policy, protocol, and the Quantico event discussed in the episode.
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Nov 21, 2025 • 48min
‘Trying to distract’: Joe slams Trump for accusing Democrats of sedition ‘punishable by death’
Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling, a former U.S. Army officer and military law expert, joins to discuss the serious implications of Trump's incendiary comments about Democrats. Hertling emphasizes the military's duty to refuse illegal orders, highlighting the importance of the constitutional oath. The conversation turns to the dangers of political rhetoric, referencing past events like January 6. They also unpack Trump's attempts to distract from pressing issues with extreme claims, while noting the potential consequences of such inflammatory language.
Oct 2, 2025 • 33min
Trump Hid Sinister Message in Speech to Generals
Lieutenant General Mark Hertling (Ret.) brings a wealth of military experience to the discussion, analyzing Donald Trump's unusual speech at Quantico before senior military leaders. Hertling criticizes the tone of the addresses, describing them as 'berating' and 'embarrassing.' He explores the potential dangers of using the military for domestic policing and discusses the implications of Trump's disregard for military norms. The conversation also covers how allies and adversaries perceive this shift, alongside the broader impact on troop morale and national security.
