Liberty Vitter Capeto

Max Steyer, President of the Partnership for Public Service, and Liberty Vitter Capeto, a data science professor, dive into the abrupt end of the government's efficiency initiative, Doge. They discuss how Doge's aggressive cuts backfired, harming morale and staff capacity. Steyer emphasizes the negative personal impact, sharing how laid-off scientists feel disrespected. Vitter counters with a defense of necessary cost-cutting, though both question the claimed savings. The conversation reveals the complexities of balancing efficiency with human costs in government reform.