In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, my guest is Jamie Metzl, a leading futurist, geopolitical expert, science fiction novelist, media commentator and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. He served in the White House, State Department, and United Nations.

In 2019, he was appointed to the World Health Organization’s (WHO) expert advisory committee on developing global standards for the governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie’s work with the WHO and his background in international relations gives him a unique perspective on the coronavirus.

It another great connection, his newest book “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity” leads us right into a discussion about genetic engineering to help fight viruses. “We like to imagine ourselves in harmony with nature, but we're at war with nature,” Jamie says. There are reasons to both fear and be excited about the possiblities of genetic engineering.

Jamie also provides advisory services to governments, businesses, and institutions about the best ways to understand, predict, and prepare for revolutionary and converging technological, social, and geopolitical change. The coronavirus pandemic set in motion an evolving series of crises around the world—from governance to health to economic and, finally, to political.

“We have a huge fight ahead of us,” Jamie says. “The world on the other side is going to be very different from what it is going in, but now's the time we need to be thinking about what we want that world to look like, and making sure that it's a world that reflects our best values.”

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