Leonard Lusky, a president at Secretariat.com and longtime associate of legendary jockey Ron Turcotte, teams up with Marta Suarez, a behavioral physiologist from the University of Porto. They dive into the important diplomatic ties between Canada and Germany, especially in light of geopolitical changes. Marta reveals surprising emotional depths in fish, proving they feel more than just fear, but also pleasure. The conversation challenges how we perceive both international relations and the emotional lives of our aquatic friends.