Jeff Cochran, an advocate against celebrity culture in the church, joins Leann Reece, who emphasizes the detrimental effects of the green room mentality, and Vicki May, who discusses volunteer exploitation. They dive into the contradictions of being called to serve while navigating the pressures for status. The conversation exposes how green room culture can lead to isolation and burnout among volunteers, challenging listeners to rethink church dynamics for a healthier community experience.