Tim Murphy, a reporter with Mother Jones, and Layla El-Abed, a Palestinian-American activist leading the Uncommitted movement, explore the complexities behind Donald Trump's victory. They discuss the motivations of 'messy middle' voters, revealing how economic concerns often clash with personal beliefs. Murphy highlights stories of January 6 participants seeking pardons, while El-Abed shares her struggles with political identity during a tense election night. Together, they navigate the emotional and political landscape, shedding light on diverse voter sentiments and the quest for genuine engagement.