In a provocative discussion, James W. Phillips, a science and government adviser, and Laura Ryan, a research policy author, explore the ambitious visions for Lovelace Labs. They dive into topics like the potential of cellular intelligence, drugging disordered proteins, and the revolutionary integration of neuromorphic AI with brain organoids. Laura advocates for massive automation in biology, while James shares his interest in scientifically investigating Zen meditation. Together, they tackle the pressing issues of biosecurity and the future of R&D in an aging Britain.