Laura Pappano, a journalist and co-author of "Playing with the Boys," dives into the historical roots of gender segregation in sports, revealing that it stemmed from women outperforming men in mixed competitions. She discusses the milestones of gender equality, including Title IX, and the pressing need for a reimagined approach to athletics that prioritizes ability over gender. The conversation also explores the benefits of mixed-gender teams, especially in Ultimate Frisbee, advocating for inclusivity and fairness in the sporting world.