Scot McKnight, a New Testament scholar, and Laura Barringer discuss their new book "Pivot" which focuses on transforming toxic church cultures into good ones. They address common questions about culture transformation and provide practical tools to evaluate and initiate change. The podcast explores the motivation behind the book, its impact on people's experiences, the writing process, and the importance of confronting toxicity and cultivating goodness in churches.

Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, authors of 'Pivot', discuss creating healthy church cultures, accountable leadership, and responding to abuse and scandal in the digital age with Steve Carter. They emphasize the importance of listening to the Spirit, stewarding power, and diagnosing heart and team health. This episode provides valuable insights for anyone seeking to see the church become 'tov'.