Miriam Z. DeLoff, an expert in humanitarian aid, and Larry Andre, a seasoned diplomat, discuss the turmoil at USAID following the Trump administration's drastic cuts. They highlight the immediate impact on vulnerable populations relying on critical services and the confusion faced by USAID workers during the evacuation process. The conversation delves into the larger implications of political decisions on international relationships and the essential role of USAID in global stability, especially concerning humanitarian efforts in regions like Somalia.