Larisa Brown, Defence editor at The Times, and Rob Page, former British Army lieutenant colonel, dive into the controversial Ajax armoured vehicle program. Rob shares his hair-raising first impressions of the vehicle, citing disorienting vibrations and serious health issues reported by soldiers. Larisa discusses how, despite reports of injuries, the army pressed forward with its deployment. The pair reveal the stark reality of accountability and the political fallout from the program's failures, leaving listeners questioning the future of military modernization.