Kurt Andersen, the author of "Evil Geniuses," shares insights on how Pat Buchanan influenced the rise of Trump and Republican populism. John Ganz, author of "When the Clock Broke," discusses the historical context of today's political turmoil and the implications of Trump's leadership style. They dive into the evolving nature of the Republican Party, the blending of authoritarianism with conservatism, and the dangers posed to democracy by current political trends. Their conversation unveils the cyclical nature of backlash politics and the ramifications of nostalgia for Trump's tenure.

Kurt Andersen, a celebrated writer and former editor of New York Magazine, joins Michael Hirschorn, CEO of Ish Entertainment, to dissect the interplay of reality television and politics. They share amusing anecdotes, including a revelation about a college cocaine dealer turned cabinet member. The duo reflects on the cultural implications of Trump and Musk, while also recommending standout books and shows like 'Wicked' and Kendrick Lamar's latest album. Their insightful banter navigates the blurred lines between performative politics and authentic identities.