Krish Ashok and Naren Shenoy join Amit Varma to discuss a wide range of fascinating topics in this podcast. They delve into traffic flow, computational thinking, systems thinking, and AI's impact on creativity. They explore cognitive fallacies, food divisions, and the origins of restaurant culture. The speakers also touch on the art of cooking, misconceptions and misinformation, and the tragic lives of Fritz Haber and Claire Emur War. They discuss social media influencers, the power of music and memories, overcoming challenges, and the importance of learning. A captivating and thought-provoking episode!

Indian cooking is often treated as a mystical art -- but it is the science behind it that should fill us with wonder. Krish Ashok joins Amit Varma in episode 204 of The Seen and the Unseen to speak about Masala Lab, his effort at explaining this great art from scientific first principles. Every meal of yours can now be a romantic adventure filled with the ecstasy of insight -- whether you cook it, eat or or do both while playing the violin. Also check out: 1. Masala Lab -- Krish Ashok. 2. Krish Ashok's website, blog, YouTube, Soundcloud & columns. 3. The Indianness of Indian Food -- Episode 95 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Vikram Doctor). 4. Neurogastronomy -- Gordon M Shepherd. 5. Hot Ones (the spicy wings show) on Wikipedia and YouTube. 6. The Botany of Desire -- Michael Pollan. 7. Ganesh Bagler's homepage, Wikipedia, academic papers and YouTube Channel. 8. Shukto (Ekla Cholo Re). Bloody hell! 9. Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat -- Samin Nosrat. 10. Nisha Madhulika on YouTube. 11. The Ketchup Conundrum -- Malcolm Gladwell. 12. Toddy Chicken -- Vahchef. 13. The Food Lab -- J Kenji López–alt. 14. Modernist Cusine -- Nathan Myhrvold. 15. Modernist Cusine at Home -- Nathan Myhrvold. 16. Bong Eats on YouTube. 17. Saffron Trail -- Nandita Iyer's blog. 18. Salu Kitchen on YouTube. 19. Madras Samayal on YouTube. This episode is sponsored by The Great Courses Plus. Check out their course, Cooking Across the Ages. For free unlimited access for a month, click here. You can now buy Seen/Unseen swag. And do check out Amit’s online courses, The Art of Clear Writing and The Art of Podcasting.

Krish Ashok and Narek Shenoy, experts on Indian culture and social media, have a fun conversation with Amit Varma discussing topics like bench pressing, vegetarians being evil, and the different meanings of ch*tiya. They also explore the flaws of airports, the negative effects of alcohol, and the importance of fortification in food. The conversation covers various subjects like Twitter, saris, homeopathic medicine, and the origins of engineering. Additionally, they touch on breaking social norms, the evolution of the human mind, the beauty of the raga Yaman, and the relationship between music and literature.