Kosuke Kawaguchi, creator of Jenkins, shares insights on transitioning from an open-source initiative to a successful business model. He discusses the challenges of balancing open source and commercial interests, particularly in monetizing enterprise versions. The conversation dives into how foundational organizations shape collaboration and the evolution of governance models. Kawaguchi also highlights the vital role of transparency in community-driven projects and the impact of large language models on the future of open-source development.