Kobe Lyons

Lawyer, academic and AI governance adviser who interviews and moderates discussions on digital ethics and policy; served as the on-stage interlocutor for this RMIT event.

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Nov 6, 2025 • 54min

Empire of AI — Karen Hao goes inside the reckless race for total world domination

Karen Hao, an award-winning technology journalist and author of "Empire of AI," joins lawyer and AI governance adviser Kobe Lyons for an insightful conversation. They explore how AI's rapid evolution is tied to colonial practices and the environmental toll of tech development. Hao critiques the industry's narrative on productivity and discusses the troubling exploitation of workers in data labeling. They also highlight community-driven models promoting ethical AI, proposing a shift to purpose-driven technologies that prioritize human needs over corporate gain.

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