Kiera Butler

Kiera Butler, a National Correspondent for Mother Jones, and Rob Schenck, a former leader in the Christian nationalist movement, dive into the intriguing pronatalist movement. They explore how billionaires like Elon Musk and conservative values intersect in a push for higher birth rates to purportedly save civilization. The conversation covers embryo optimization, the ethics of who should reproduce, and Schenck’s transformative journey from advocating for abortion rights to grappling with the moral implications of his past actions in the political arena.

Don Lamb, Pastor of LifeGate in Pennsylvania, passionately advocates for his church's political engagement, rejecting the notion of a passive faith. Joining him are Najib Aminy, a reporter who investigated LifeGate's political activities, and Kiera Butler from Mother Jones, who sheds light on the New Apostolic Reformation. They explore how political activism is entwined with faith and the implications of NAR's rise, aiming to empower Christians to influence governance, particularly in local elections. The conversation uncovers the tensions between spirituality and political action.