Khairani Barokka, a renowned poet known for her collection 'amuk', delves into the intricate relationships between language, identity, and colonialism. She highlights how the Indonesian concept of 'amuk' reflects deep-seated anger and challenges Western misinterpretations. The conversation explores the unique structure of the Indonesian language, its impact on perceptions of time, and the intertwining of personal and environmental rage. Barokka also touches on themes of disability justice and creative expression, revealing her commitment to using art as a means of addressing systemic injustices.