Jorge Bermicky, an assistant professor at Howard University specializing in leadership among Latino men, and Kevin McClure, associate professor at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington, dive into the crucial competencies for effective college presidency. They discuss the importance of listening and resilience, and how these traits can transform executive roles. The conversation highlights the need for trust, emotional intelligence, and authentic narratives to foster broader representation in leadership. They also explore the post-pandemic shifts in student affairs and the importance of support networks.