Joining the discussion are Kevin Li, a member of Qiao Collective and a public health expert, along with Creighton Ward and Alessandro Zancan. They delve into China's unprecedented Zero COVID strategy, highlighting its successes compared to Western mishandlings. The guests share insights on the impact of socialist policy in public health, emphasizing the importance of life expectancy and economic stability. They also address the innovative approaches used, such as contact tracing and mass testing, while tackling misconceptions and privacy concerns.