Kevin Holland, an exciting UFC middleweight known for his trash-talking, joins his head coach Travis Lutter, an Ultimate Fighter 4 champion. They discuss the evolution of Kung Fu in MMA, comparing techniques and styles. The duo also explores the unique challenges of fighting during the pandemic, highlighting the absence of crowds and the emotional impact. With humor, they delve into weight management and dietary choices in the fighter community, sharing personal anecdotes about food and training. Insightful and entertaining, their conversation reveals the grit behind the sport.