Jon B. Jarvis, the former director of the National Park Service, and Kevin Heatley, a former superintendent of Crater Lake, dive into the concerning future of America's national parks. They discuss alarming staffing shortages and the operational chaos stemming from budget cuts. Jarvis recounts the proud history and evolution of the Park Service, while Heatley shares harrowing stories of vandalism and shutdowns. They also warn of potential privatization threats, drawing cautionary parallels to China's parks, emphasizing the need for proper funding and stewardship.
