In this discussion, Kevin Fielder, the Chief Security Officer for NatWest Box and Mettle, shares his expertise in cybersecurity and cloud-native technologies. He highlights the importance of integrating security practices with business goals, advocating for automation in development. The conversation navigates the challenges of vendor relationships and the significance of strategic partnerships in enhancing security. Reflecting on past experiences, Fielder underscores the need for effective communication across teams to bridge gaps and align security measures with organizational objectives.