Kenny Torrella, a senior reporter at Vox who investigates the ethics of zoos, dives into a thought-provoking discussion on the morality of animal captivity. He contrasts the potential educational benefits and conservation efforts of zoos with the disturbing reality of animal welfare. The conversation highlights the emotional complexities of visiting zoos, the controversial impact of captivity on animal behavior, and the mixed messages about conservation they promote. Ultimately, Torrella urges listeners to reflect on their choices and consider more compassionate alternatives.