Kenan Thompson asks about breaking the glass ceiling and shares Barbie outfits, pick-up attempts, and Mae's unforgettable Justin Trudeau story. The hosts discuss road rage, the potential for a female president, banging heads against walls, hugging trees, the dilemma of supporting a female Republican president, exploring the gendered brain, and meeting Justin Trudeau.

Kenan Thompson, the longest-tenured cast member of Saturday Night Live, plays our game about people who only lasted one day on the job. He is joined by panelists Luke Burbank, Negin Farsad and Hari Kondabolu. Please help us out by telling us what you like and how we could improve by completing a short anonymous survey at npr.org/podcastsurvey.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Nicki Minaj shares her thoughts on an artist who turned down her label offer, emphasizing her commitment to fostering talent in the industry. John Legend captivates the audience with a touching tribute to Prince at the Democratic National Convention, blending politics with music. Kenan Thompson lightens the mood by humorously critiquing Project 2025, sparking conversations on its implications. The discussion navigates the intersections of music, culture, and political commentary, making for an engaging and vibrant dialogue.

Kenan Thompson, SNL’s longest-tenured cast member, joins us this week from Atlanta. Everyone has a go at their best Lorne voice, and we quickly realize “we’re just one hat and 40 buttons away from being Steve right now.” Welcome to SmartLess. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.