Ken Wylie, a Human Hazard Management innovator and author of *Buried*, joins guest host Brooke Shiny Edwards, a fellow guide and student of Wylie's archetypal course. They discuss the profound relationship between personal growth and adventure, using past tragedies to explore disaster archetypes. The duo emphasizes the power of introspection in decision-making and the courage found in embracing one's shadow. As they navigate the complexities of risk in outdoor settings, they encourage listeners to reflect on their motivations for adventure and the community's role in fostering growth.