Chaim Gartenberg, a Senior Reporter at The Verge specializing in USB-C, and Ken Pillonel, a renowned hardware hacker, dive into the intriguing world of USB-C technology. They discuss the convoluted history of USB-C, its myriad variations, and the challenges consumers face in identifying compatible cables. Ken shares his groundbreaking journey of modifying an iPhone's lightning port to USB-C, revealing technical hurdles and the ethical implications of reverse engineering tech. The conversation also touches on EU regulations pushing for universal charging standards and the future landscape of USB-C.