In this engaging discussion, Mike McGlone, a senior market analyst with insights on gold and volatility, teams up with Kelly, an expert in DeFi and on-chain mechanics. They dive into the shocking Paxos mishap of accidentally minting 300 trillion stablecoins, examining the trust issues and regulatory implications that arise. The conversation also touches on the DOJ's seizure of Bitcoin from scams, shifting macro trends between gold and Bitcoin, and the evolving narratives around crypto as an investment, all while keeping a keen eye on market dynamics and cautioning against speculative risks.