Hamza Hamouchene and Katie Sandwell discuss their book "Dismantling Green Colonialism: Energy and Climate Justice in the Arab Region." They explore the concept of a just transition, the challenges faced during publication, and the need to address issues of poverty, exploitation, and war alongside energy. They also delve into environmental orientalism and its connection to just transition, as well as the concepts of green colonialism and green grabbing. The speakers analyze the impact of green colonialism in the Arab region, including settler colonial projects in Palestine and Morocco. They also highlight the negative consequences of export-oriented projects driven by foreign agendas and the dangers of privatization and commodification of essential resources.