Katie Johnson, former personal assistant to President Barack Obama, shares her fascinating experiences from Inauguration Day 2009 and the whirlwind preparations within the White House. Courtney Subramanian, a BBC senior editor and former White House correspondent, discusses the implications of Donald Trump's potential second term, especially with a Republican-controlled Congress. Together, they reflect on the emotional complexities for new staff, the chaos of transitions, and the personal stakes involved in navigating these pivotal moments in U.S. politics.
