Katie Dalebout, a writer, interviewer, host, and facilitator of creative community, joins Liz Tran to ponder if everything happens for a reason. They explore emotional decision-making, regret, personal agency, and the balance between structure and flow in life. They also reflect on friendship and choice, discussing the emotional connection between a friend leaving and a car situation.

In this podcast, Michelle is joined by Katie Dalebout, the show's new podcast producer. They discuss the Semmelweis Effect, which explores our tendency to reject new evidence that contradicts established beliefs. They provide examples of this effect in medicine, global warming denial, and business strategies. They emphasize the importance of challenging established beliefs, being open to different perspectives, and questioning why we believe what we believe. They also discuss the impact of the Semmelweis Effect on decision-making and personal growth.