Katie Benner, Norm Ornstein, and Elliot Williams analyze Trump's maneuvers in DC courtrooms and Hunter Biden's showdown with House committees. They discuss Trump's unprecedented behavior in his fraud trial, debate the legitimacy of delaying proceedings, and explore concerns about liberal prosecutors targeting the former president. The chapter also touches on Mark Hamill becoming a Ukraine ambassador and a debate on the best techniques for making rosé wine.

Katie Benner, Jacob Weisberg, and Jelani Cobb discuss the challenges faced by journalism in the aftermath of eight years of Trump rule, including changes in business models, the rise of fake news, and the impact of social media noise. They also explore the importance of diversifying journalism by addressing the crisis of trust and the need for more diverse newsrooms to effectively defend democracy in the Trump era.

Katie Benner is a features writer for the New York Times, who covered the Justice Department for a number of years beginning in 2017. In a wide-ranging conversation, she sat down with Lawfare editor-in-chief to talk about the challenges of walking into the Justice Department beat during the Trump administration and covering the post-election uprising within the department. She also gave a textured assessment of the department’s criminal investigation of Trump and other Jan. 6 defendants. And she talks about what makes a Justice Department source, and how the department has changed in the era of Merrick Garland.Among the works mentioned in this episode:The article, "Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General," by Katie Benner.The article," Louisiana School Made Headlines for Sending Black Kids to Elite Colleges. Here’s the Reality," by Erica L. Green and Katie BennerChatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.