In this episode, Joe Rosensteel and Kathy Campbell discuss the new iOS 17.2 beta feature of capturing spatial video on iPhone, their preferences for video recording, and their thoughts on the Vision Pro format. They also explore their love for experimenting with different fonts, talk about journaling apps, and share their strategies for advising non-techy friends on software updates.

Kathy Campbell and Lex Friedman join the hosts to talk about their computer setups, living a peripheral-free life, entertainment setups, multitasking habits, typing vs. dictation, and their Valentine's Day tradition.

Kathy Campbell and Matthew Cassinelli discuss preferences for listening to media at different speeds, Apple watch bands, and their best received gifts. They also share the excitement of receiving a Kindle Keyboard as a Christmas present.