Kathleen Smith
Chief Outreach Officer at ClearedJobs.net and co-host of the Security Cleared Jobs podcast, with extensive experience running career tracks, job fairs, and outreach in the cleared and cybersecurity hiring communities.
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Jan 27, 2026 • 39min
How do you gain “experience” in cyber without a job in cyber? [CISO Persepctives]
Kathleen Smith, Chief Outreach Officer at ClearedJobs.net and co-host of Security Cleared Jobs, shares hiring and outreach experience in cleared and cyber recruiting. She discusses the experience paradox in cyber hiring. Practical paths include volunteering, CTFs, pen testing projects, domain expert transitions, internships, and internal retraining. Workplace examples and realistic expectations for entry roles are explored.
