Journalist Melanie Kaplan, author of 'Lab Dog', shares her poignant journey adopting Hammie, a lab beagle, sparking her investigation into animal testing ethics. She reveals the troubling statistics around animal use in research, especially beagles, and examines the limitations of the Animal Welfare Act. Kathleen Conley, from Humane World for Animals, discusses the push for alternatives in testing and the promise of innovations like organ chips. Both guests challenge the status quo, advocating for a transformation in how society views and treats research animals.