Katherine Thompson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and former Defense Department official, teams up with Josh Shifrinson, a University of Maryland professor and expert on grand strategy, to explore the intricacies of the National Security Strategy. They delve into controversial concepts like 'civilizational erasure,' critique the document's contradictions, and scrutinize its handling of U.S.-EU relations. The discussion highlights the NSS's economic focus on China and explores the balance of diplomacy versus military force in the Western Hemisphere, suggesting a push towards more restrained foreign policy.