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Katherine Sibley
White House historian and specialist in First Ladies, serving as the episode's expert to discuss the history and significance of the East Wing.
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Oct 31, 2025
• 32min
Is Donald Trump building a ballroom or a bunker at the White House?
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Katherine Sibley, a noted White House historian and First Lady specialist, joins the discussion about Trump's controversial decision to demolish the East Wing for a new ballroom. She explains the East Wing's historic significance and what its loss means for future First Ladies. The discussion weaves through public backlash, the potential influence of private tech donors, and the quirky conspiracy theories linking the ballroom to the presidential bunker. Sibley also reflects on how Melania Trump's low profile impacts the First Lady's role in this evolving landscape.
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