Katherine Krueger, a writer and editor with expertise in media and politics, explores the rise of Bari Weiss, a controversial figure known for her critiques of 'woke' culture. They dissect Weiss's portrayal as a victim despite her elite connections and substantial funding behind her media ventures. The conversation dives into the elitism of higher education, the influence of billionaires on new institutions like the University of Austin, and the complicated narratives of free speech and representation in media.