Katherine Franke, a tenured professor at Columbia University known for her expertise in gender and sexuality law, shares her experiences with the escalating censorship of pro-Palestine voices on college campuses. She discusses her own push-out due to criticisms of Israel and the broader implications for academic freedom and free speech. The conversation also touches on the complexities surrounding selective definitions of anti-Semitism and the challenges faced by educators in fostering open dialogue amidst a politically charged environment.

Middle East expert Steven Simon and law professor Katherine Franke discuss Israel's strategy to defeat Hamas, the challenges of discussing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on college campuses, and the current political landscape in Israel. They emphasize the need for dialogue, acknowledge suffering on both sides, and call for support to the show.