Jacob Silverman, a journalist and author of the forthcoming book Gilded Rage, and Kate Willett, a stand-up comedian and host of Dystopia Now, dive deep into the influence of tech elites like David Sacks. They discuss Sacks's connections within the PayPal mafia and the authoritarian trends shaping political discourse. The conversation also touches on cryptocurrency's dark side and its ties to crime, while highlighting podcasting's role in modern political discussions. Predictions are made about how these forces could reshape democracy.