Guests Lisa Congdon, Jessica Hische, Kate Bingaman-Burt, and Gretchen Rubin discuss topics such as overcoming doubts in creative work, achieving best-selling books, cultivating motivation, and the power of focusing on one main goal or quest.

Illustrator-entrepreneur-educator-multi-hyphenate-powerhouse Kate Bingaman-Burt talks about cheerleading, kiln-based graphic design, and vegetable medley. The host unintentionally messes up the episode lineup. They discuss their background in design, early creative ventures, engaging people through design, designing a school literary magazine, and learning from each other in college.