Kat Holmes, Microsoft's former Principal Director for Inclusive Design, discusses the concept of inclusive design and the importance of designing for individual needs. She explores the correlation between personal interactions and technology, the early stages of HoloLens development, and the challenges faced by designers in large organizations. The episode also delves into the evolving role of designers in areas like machine learning and AI.

In this enlightening discussion, guests Kate Aronowitz, a design exec from eBay and Meta; Steve Johnson, VP of Design at Netflix; Jaime Lopez, Chief Design and Marketing Officer at Flatiron Health; and Kat Holmes, Salesforce's Chief Design Officer, share their unconventional career journeys. They delve into the importance of adaptability and soft skills in design, emphasize the role of genuine connections, and explore the purpose of work. Their experiences provide valuable insights into overcoming career misconceptions while navigating the evolving landscape of design.