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Karol Nawrocki
Polish historian-turned-politician and the episode's featured guest, elected president of Poland in June 2025 with conservative backing and known for his views on security, NATO and criticism of aspects of the EU.
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Jan 19, 2026
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Karol Nawrocki, Polish President: Europe has lost its way
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Karol Nawrocki, the newly elected Polish president and former historian, discusses Europe's lost focus on security amidst ideological distractions like climate policy. He sees Putin as a looming threat and argues that Donald Trump is the best candidate to negotiate with Russia. Nawrocki criticizes the EU's priority on migration over defense and emphasizes the need for increased NATO solidarity. He also touches on Poland’s defense commitments and a rising conservative movement in Europe, urging a return to foundational values to combat transient ideologies.
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