Karen Sandler, Executive Director at Software Freedom Conservancy, discusses the challenges and ethical considerations of organizing FOSSY conference. They touch on software freedom, community involvement, DRM, coordination on renewals, and the global influence of U.S. law. The episode also highlights the pronunciation of "GNOME" and the balance between using open source and proprietary software.

Peter Sunde, co-founder of the Pirate Bay and a key figure in the piracy movement, joins Karen Sandler, executive director of the Software Freedom Conservancy and a strong advocate for software freedom. They explore the fine line between piracy and open source, discussing how both promote information accessibility. The conversation delves into the ethical complexities of software sharing, activism, and the impact of corporate giants on the hacker culture. Sunde and Sandler also critique the obstacles faced by open source movements in today's tech landscape.