Academics Zeynep Ton and Julian Jessop discuss the disparity in pay for essential workers, including nurses, questioning the justification behind underpaying professions with significant real-world impact. They explore the balance between fair wages and non-monetary rewards in vital professions while discussing the implications of pay increases and strategies for creating value through job enhancements. The transformative effects of paying low-wage employees more are also highlighted, emphasizing the benefits of increased pay for both workers and society.

Is Brexit to blame for the UK's problems? Guests Robert Colville and Julian Jessop discuss the short-term damage caused by Brexit, such as friction with trading partners and political uncertainty. However, the long-term harm is uncertain. They explore the impact on the UK economy, debunk myths surrounding Brexit's negative effects, and highlight the need to seize opportunities. The podcast also delves into Brexit's effects on political stability, the future of reconciliation, and the rise of the canist state.