John Cutler, a product management expert and writer, teams up with Joshua Herzig-Marx, a seasoned product leader, to delve into the challenging job market for product leaders. They explore the factors behind prolonged job searches, including the flattening of product organizations and the rise of super IC PMs. The conversation highlights how AI is reshaping product leadership dynamics and offers valuable advice for those navigating career transitions. Together, they predict significant changes in the landscape of product management over the next decade.