Mitchell Hartman, a reporter on industrial production and trade war impacts, joins Joshua Costa, the owner of Sleepwell Recycling, who specializes in mattress recycling. They discuss how tariff anxieties influence discretionary spending, prompting impulsive purchases as a coping mechanism in uncertain times. The conversation touches on Bitcoin's potential as a digital safe haven, and highlights the resilience of communities like Altadena recovering from disasters, with a focus on sustainability efforts in the recycling industry.