Derek is joined by Joshua Bercu, the executive director of Industry Traceback Group, to discuss the persistent nuisance of robocalls. They explore how the average American faces daily spam, the tactics scammers use, and the challenges of regulation. Joshua explains the evolution of robocall technology and the cooperation between the government and industry to combat this issue. The duo also delves into the dark role AI plays in facilitating scams, raising awareness about the threats posed by new technologies.