Sidney A. Shapiro, a law professor specializing in administrative law, and Joseph P. Tomain, Dean Emeritus with a focus on energy and regulatory policy, discuss how government has been key to America's development despite rising anti-government sentiments. They tackle the balance between individualism and communal interests throughout history, examining figures from Lincoln to Trump. The conversation critiqued market myths and emphasized the need for government intervention in economic fairness, while also reflecting on the complexities of globalization and shifting political ideologies.

Sidney A. Shapiro and Joseph P. Tomain, law professors specializing in regulatory policy, discuss their book, highlighting how government has historically partnered with markets to shape America. They challenge myths of individualism, showcasing government’s crucial role in infrastructure and economic growth. The conversation spans historical figures like Hamilton and FDR, addressing how government initiatives have impacted social movements and economic inequalities. They also critique modern economic ideologies from Trump and Biden, emphasizing the need for innovative solutions amidst shifting political landscapes.