Joseph Oleshangay, a human rights lawyer in Tanzania, and Anuradha Mittal, Executive Director of the Oakland Institute, discuss the urgent plight of the Maasai people facing eviction from their ancestral lands near the Serengeti. They reveal the complexities of conservation efforts that prioritize wildlife over indigenous rights. The conversation sheds light on the clash between government policies and Maasai culture, highlighting the need for incorporating traditional practices into conservation strategies. Listeners gain a profound understanding of land rights and the deep connection between the Maasai and their environment.