Joseph Mattera, a noted author and leader in the apostolic movement, dives into the complexities of the New Apostolic Reformation and Christian nationalism. He discusses the challenges of discerning prophetic voices, particularly in the political landscape leading up to the 2024 elections. Highlighting the need for accountability, Mattera critiques both the NAR's practices and the charismatic movement's political engagement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of clarity in beliefs and the ethics of addressing heretical teachings while fostering healthy dialogue within the Christian community.